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CarlisleFrost

Registriert: 19.03.2009
Nationalität: USA
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04.09.2016 23:41:35
  What a round
Congrats Gakra on the race win. Punished me for making my changes late on! Very, very close race between a lot of teams. I feel sorry for Margaret on the fastest lap! Predicted it perfectly, but doesn't get an award, as someone else did too, but earlier! Rare to see that, as normally, just being 1-2 thousandths off will earn the fastest lap prize.

Main championship's heating up nicely. Katalyst not slipping up, Dominik right in there, Schumacher looking dangerous due to getting a lot of the bad tyre out of the way, then, Gakra, Maverick and Chris not far off either (to name but a few).

Behind the two people I really don't want to play catch up against in the constructors. Definitely needing Dominik to slip up there to stand a chance, as he's stretching away at the top.

Lots of big names in the Eliminator, competing to be the first champion of that.

Champions Racing League might be more interesting than I initially thought. Thought Maverick was away and gone (still has a decent lead though). Expecting Schumacher might close in after Singapore, as he has a ton of ERS to use!

Then in the Cup, there could be some big, big draws early on. Could be Maverick v Dominik (assuming he gets through his WC round). Schumacher (if he gets through his WC round) would face a very dangerous Hase, while some big names fell in the groups.

Shaping up to be an exciting final stretch of the season on all fronts! Bring on Singapore!

   
Chris

Registriert: 04.02.2014
Nationalität: Germany
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22.09.2016 06:15:59
 
i'm with frosti. its not the best solution, that all player have to be online in a point of time. maybe some have to work, or maybe some want to sleep 6 o'clock next saturday ;-D but i dont know a better way.

   
Dominik

Registriert: 06.03.2005
Nationalität: Austria
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21.09.2016 14:10:20
 
But CarlisleFrost, think of it in this way:
If you got that far to play in the elimination rounds of the Cup, you got to bring in the battle everything you got. And if you got more than your opponent, an advantage money wise and ers wise, it is your right to use it.
If you are P1 at the start of the race and you keep being P1 after the first round, you will probably try to cope the strategy of your strongest competitor which means you ideally do your pit stop when he does it. If you don't do so, you take an unnecessary risk of not winning.

If you are CarlisleFrost driving for a real Formula One team, would you say to yourself "Nah, I am not driving that cowardly and take the easy win, I want to overtake him on the track when I make my pit stop"?

   
CarlisleFrost

Registriert: 19.03.2009
Nationalität: USA
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21.09.2016 01:10:50
 
The copy+ERS tactic has come up before (think it was last year or the year before). We didn't have a solution to it and I still can't see a good one.

Seeing strategies is fine overall e.g. if Dominik makes a change before me, I'll be thinking what I can do differently to try and gain points on him! He and a lot of other people probably do the same.

Dominik's right on the only real "defence" against it. That's pretty much what I do when I'm the one with a lower budget and/or less ERS. Just need to be smart about it, particularly when against someone known to do it.

When it comes to the Cup, my PERSONAL view is the copy+ERS approach is a, cowardly, uncreative thing to do, so I'll never resort to it. I'd rather lose something "fighting" than win that way. Those that do do it just motivate me more to beat them!


   
Dominik

Registriert: 06.03.2005
Nationalität: Austria
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20.09.2016 23:34:23
 
Hide is never an option before the very last race. The only solution to situations like this where, you face a wealthier opponent who has an ERS edge, is to adjust your team settings just seconds before the pit lane closes.

   
GaKra Motors

Registriert: 02.03.2006
Nationalität: Switzerland
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20.09.2016 00:10:42
 
Nice review, CarlisleFrost... and I agree with pretty much everything, even that losing with more than 140 points isn't nice and copy and ERS isn't a heroic strategy... however, losing that way is a matter of having a "hide your components" button and not pressing it, or in other words a lesson learnt.

   
CarlisleFrost

Registriert: 19.03.2009
Nationalität: USA
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19.09.2016 00:06:31
 
Quick review of the latest round...

Another pivotal race over, with some absolutely massive scores in it. Huge swing towards Katalyst in the World Championship, both due to two correct qualifying predictions (cursing the fact all three of mine were one place out, as an extra 10-15 points could prove massive), and due to Hulkenberg's retirement denting several close rivals. Schumacher's Mubin GP looks like the best threat, as though 79 points back, he's got no options left to use, vs Katalyst, who still has to use 4 (SHOULD cause a 48 point swing or so, if Mercedes keep winning races).

Tough seeing beyond Dominik in the constructors, with the lead there growing further. 24.5 points ahead of Schumacher and closing that kind of gap isn't easy!

Great win for Daijhi in the CRL. 4 drivers now separated by just 13 points. With AstonMartin and Schumacher now through all their options, it could be a 6-way battle, come the end of the season.

Few big shocks in the Cup, largely due to Hulkenberg's retirement. Dominik and Schumacher both falling victim to that retirement (wonder if Maverick is breathing a sigh of relief due to that). It does mean the two biggest potential match-ups of the next round won't be taking place (Maverick v Dominik and Hase v Schumacher). Hard luck to Paperboy, knocked out, despite scoring 142 points (beaten by a rather cowardly copy+ERS tactic from king_1905), and Ferrari SpA scoring 141 points but losing to a similar tactic from crashnburn.
Still, some interesting match-ups for the next round!

Bring on Malaysia!

   
GaKra Motors

Registriert: 02.03.2006
Nationalität: Switzerland
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06.09.2016 17:51:33
 
@CarlisleFrost Oh man, we would meet in the quarterfinals already? And you seem to have the exactly same strategy as me, but more budget. I hoped for a team that didn't use any option tyres so far.
But anyway, I will certainly try to do my part to make that duel possible, but then everything else is possible in the Cup, too.

   
CarlisleFrost

Registriert: 19.03.2009
Nationalität: USA
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06.09.2016 00:18:40
 
@Dominik, well, you seem to have a better knack for predicting qualifying positions than I do, so it's possible to gain that way! You're only 6 points behind me, so I could find myself in 3rd pretty quickly! Singapore should be a really interesting race. Part of me hopes Mercedes will be bad there again, so I can get rid of some options without losing points! I imagine it'll be getting tougher to find +3m budget gains, as Ocon is to 4m and a lot of the components are close to their fair values, so there's a tradeoff between trying to keep getting max budget gains and going for the best points.

With plenty of races to go, I'd say there's no strong favourite for any of the major trophies yet, though the field is stretching out on some fronts, with a few favourites forming. Glad to be in a strong position on 4 fronts though.

- For the World Championship, I'm in the best position I've ever been in, all things considered. 2nd place, having used 1 set of Options v Katalyst who hasn't used any (so I SHOULD pull some points back there, as should you, though he does have a ton of ERS to use). My team has the biggest budget on the site, so I'd hope to maintain that and use it to my advantage. Schumacher's team is also a dark horse in this. Though he's 7th and 62 points off the lead, only having to use one more set of options should really help him close the gap. I like my chances, but one bad race with so many strong teams close to me means that could be game over.

- For the Constructors, the two people I'd LEAST want to be behind at this stage are yourself and Schumacher, given performances in recent seasons. Average budgets between us are close, so closing an almost 28 point gap is going to be really hard, unless you get unlucky or if I take a risk that pays off really well. I'd probably say my chances of winning here aren't great, but I'm aiming for a top 3 finish.

- For the Cup, I think I have the highest budget of any team left in it. I'll use a set of options in my bye round, meaning I won't have to use any more through the competition, which helps, while I can also charge my ERS up. I'm taking nothing for granted though, as I've come into the last two Cup years in a good position in the knock out rounds, only to lose matches I expected to get through. I'd think I'm one of the favourites again this year and I doubt anyone will be too keen to come up against me. GaKra, we might meet in the quarter finals, if we both get that far!

- A few races ago, I actually thought the Champions Racing League was over, as Maverick was sooooo far ahead of everyone. I had a really slow start and by race 10, he had 82 points and I was 2nd on 44. It felt like a huge gap so early on and realistically, I thought 2nd place was the best I could hope for. Some strong races recently have closed the gap down a lot and I feel like I have a shot here, especially as I have a huge budget. Again, Schumacher is kind of flying under the radar in 6th, but has used most of his options, has a lot of ERS charged and a decent budget, so I expect him to close the gap. Lot of other very dangerous teams that could rise up if they have a good race or two as well. Still, I'd say I have the best chance here, as one race isn't fatal.

Fairly long answer to your question!

   
Dominik

Registriert: 06.03.2005
Nationalität: Austria
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05.09.2016 22:13:59
 
This season is becoming thrilling.
While it is very challenging to increase my leads in the Constructors World Championship, it is even more difficult to catch up with #1 and #2 in the World Championship.
At this progress each component is well-known for its strengths and weaknesses and thus it is tricky to gain an advantage above the other top competitors. A slow track is upcoming? Verstappen is your man accompanied by McLaren components. Perfect qualifiying predictions seem the only tool to gain more points than the opponents do at the moment.

In Eliminator, which turned out to be an excellent competition, some competitors did an unbelievable job with having a higher budget than me and all five or almost all five Pirelli Option done. The way to the championship in this competition is brute as the next stages require you to be in absolute shape by having only two and then each one race to advance! So everyone may fall and fail.

CarlisleFrost, in which competition this year do you give yourself the best chances to be #1 in the end?

   
GaKra Motors

Registriert: 02.03.2006
Nationalität: Switzerland
Beiträge: 925

05.09.2016 15:22:40
 
Thank you, CarlisleFrost. It was a lot of luck on my side. I profitted in four teams of Alonso's fastest round, and in my winning team I haven't been punished to go without him. Good that I made my best choice for fastest round in this team. Makes up a bit for having shared Margaret's fate a few years ago.
Keep up the good playing, as to me you are a future World Champion and the best player without one of the big 4 titles yet. It's obvious that you know how this game works and all you lacked so far was a little more luck. Hope you will have it this season.

   
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