CarlisleFrost
Registered: 19.03.2009
Location: USA
Posts: 132
15.11.2020 15:10:50
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Budget Caps
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Just noticed budgets were capped at 145m this year (wish I'd noticed earlier, though to be honest, I paid no major attention, as caps haven't been a problem in recent years and I'd not seen any complaints or big discussions on reducing them). If it was the rule from the start of the season, it is what it is and I'll live with it, but that cap really should be reviewed for next season, as for 76 teams to cap out already, with 3 races to go is absolutely insane. I can't recall any teams capping out in the last few years across the ENTIRE season.
The changes to the way extra cash was given after races did a pretty sound job of controlling any ridiculous budget gains and such a tight cap negates the advantages any smarter budget-builders have built. Not happy with this one.
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Daijhi
Registered: 16.03.2007
Location: Germany
Posts: 29
12.12.2020 11:21:57
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Budget Cap
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CarlisleFrost - You do me too much honour to note me in your stalwart list 
I must say that the 145m cap did rather annoy me too. In the last race today so many teams had the same value which rather defeated the whole object of budget management earlier in the season.
And I agree with Futchi's point about fun and player strategy being the main object of the game. Limited budget increases each race were introduced some years ago to help weaker players - as well as the clear indication of anticipated unit increases. I think the cap limited the scope of stronger players too much and should be abandoned altogether - otherwise it becomes almost a lottery. Moreover these changes have not really helped to increase participation which has steadily declined.
Perhaps a Zoom conferance of the 'stalwarts' might be possible to iron out these issues. It would be great fun to actually meet each other after all these years. I imagine we are all getting on a bit in age
However we must not lose sight of Maverick's great work load and wonderful contribution to our lives. It is his game and we should respect that. Maybe he can draw up a list of future options and his list of 'stalwarts' can vote on them....
At any rate I feel there are many of us who really support this game and only wish to see it flourish and continue - however many, or few, there are of us.
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GaKra Motors
Registered: 02.03.2006
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 925
11.12.2020 19:57:39
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At least budget cap should be kept out of Team Budget Ranking, as at the moment it looks pretty much the same as the PFRL World Championship ranking.
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CarlisleFrost
Registered: 19.03.2009
Location: USA
Posts: 132
08.12.2020 13:31:59
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For what it's worth, I think your points were valid, Futchi.
Personally, I'd be all for some kind of open debate at the end of the season to cover thoughts and ideas for 2021, allowing people to contribute to any evolutions. There's a lot of great minds among the member-base, ranging from the experienced 10+ season stalwarts (GaKra, 777, Hiensi, Ferdel, Flavio, Allrace, Daijhi...) to the newer guard (Alan_T_Riley, Magne, etc), all of whom probably would have valuable inputs.
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Futchi
Registered: 22.03.2009
Location: Ireland
Posts: 3
07.12.2020 10:59:12
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Maverick Response
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Reading Maverick's entirely uncompromising and unsympathetic response below, I am left wondering whether this game is meant to rigidly mirror the promotional, regulatory and environmental aspects of F1 - or whether it is actually meant to be fun for the players. The unrelenting drop in membership over the past years indicates the answer.
The points I made about strategy and planning are not even considered. But then I suppose I'm just an ordinary player who never wins and doesn't really matter.
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GaKra Motors
Registered: 02.03.2006
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 925
03.12.2020 18:24:58
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I think a budget cap is fine but also felt 145 was a bit low... and have to admit I didn't even know it exists until players reached it. Then I suspected this rule might have been made at the beginning of the season and not be adjusted later when more races were added. Out of the blue I would have suggested 160 as budget cap for a normal season and maybe deducted 3 per missing race, so we would have had 154 this year, but now I can see there is already a formula. If this will stay the same for next season, I will be happy, because this means there will be a next season. And knowing about budget cap will help me to use budget protection more freely in earlier part of the season... so whatever the rules will be, as long as I know about them, I will try to squeeze the most points out of them.
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CarlisleFrost
Registered: 19.03.2009
Location: USA
Posts: 132
03.12.2020 14:18:29
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Thanks for the response Maverick.
I'd argue that the cap calculation is wrong though. My thinking for 2020 would be...
- 80m start.
- First 2 races have no gains but give +2m cash, so that'd be +4m.
- Next 14 races have value gains (races 3-16). 14 x 5 = 70m.
- Budget cap = 154m.
2021, if you go with 19 races would then be 164m.
To Futchi's point, I'm for encouraging strategy and innovation and feel that an overly low cap stifles that.
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Maverick
Registered: 10.01.2004
Location: Austria
Posts: 1076
02.12.2020 18:40:01
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The FIA has approved a new, reduced cost cap for F1 teams and a new sliding scale rule for aerodynamic testing after a vote of the World Motor Sport Council on Wednesday.
A cost cap had already been agreed by the teams and the sport's governing body, but after Wednesday's vote the cap for 2021 will be lowered from the original figure of $175m per year to $145m, with further reductions in the following years.
That's why the PFRL budget cap according to the exisiting rules (4.2 Resource restriction agreement) will remain:
17 Races (2020):
80 M. + (17-4) * 5 M. = 145 M.
max. 19 Races:
80 M. + (19-4) * 5 M. = 155 M.
Kind regards
Maverick
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Futchi
Registered: 22.03.2009
Location: Ireland
Posts: 3
02.12.2020 16:20:40
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Budget Cap
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I must agree with CarlisleFrost's point. Race points are often sacrificed and risks taken to increase budget for advantage in later races. Now my Cap team has been capped, I feel the effort was wasted. Surely the game should reward strategy and planning rather than giving equal advantage to casual application. Please can we have it removed next season.
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